3- Sunday, June 16, 1985 - North Shore News . tide-table— For Pt.’ Atkinson “Tire HtFe. 7 «0410 11.2 0755 12.3 1520. 21 . 2315 °-15.8 ‘ Saturday 8 0525 10.7 - 50800 11.5, 1605: 40 Business ......... 31 Entertainment ..... 22 Fashion..........17 Food.............30 Lifestylas.........41 Wiailhox...........7 Sports ...........42 Friday WEATHER: Sunday and Monday, sunny with cloudy periods. Highs near 18°C. Tuesday, cloudy “LIFESTYLES: 41 West Vancouver swimmer goes to great lengths.. THEY'RE: BEING touted as “Streetcars Named “Désire’’ -—~ and with good reason. “By BRIAN MOCKLER Because - desire, :~ in form of donated dollars, will - Merchants promoting the _ scheme stimate $300,000 . along... Lonsdale offered . “the | . Association: the rubber-wheeled vehicles and cover operating expenses during Expo year. . Explained Jim Houston, president of ‘the Central Lonsdale’ Merchants “We want to find’ out whether in. fact ‘there. is a positive feeling in " the merchant community.’’ Houston said he believed the proposal. to operate the pair of 26-passenger vehicles tro DOUG COLLINS: 8 The world doesn’t owe the aged a living. ; Sunday 9 an. 4 2400 Lh ee What's Going On. ..28 ley cars lic approval enormous potential benefits for business. He cited the potential tourist draw, the promo- tional opportunities provid- ed by the trolleys and the opportunity to tie together upper and lower Lonsdale as a merchant community. Houston admitted - the group hadn’t had time to conduct a feasibility study or make arrangements for maintaining the vehicles or for providing drivers. The group hopes to be able to NEWS phote Stuart Davis SHOPPING CENTRE Development general manager Wayne Knowles of Daon Development Corp. holds up the company’s proposed drawing for the shopping centre development and refurbishing of the Park and Tilford gardens, while standing in the now closed gardens. The ~ Paon/Brodel proposal for the site comes before council Monday night. wake some sort of arrange- ment with B.C. Transit, he said. Said Houston: ‘‘It’s a matter right now of trying to instil enthusiasm.’” He added: ‘‘I can’t foresee any insurmountable pro- blems.”? . Ken Stratford, B.C. Tran- sit’s director of marketing, said that to his knowledge there had been no formal contact between the Lonsdale merchants and B.C. Transit. He added, however, it was entirely possible there had been con- tact at some level. He noted trolleys like the ones proposed had _ been operated for a number of years in American cities, describing them as ‘‘very expensive and successful’’. Preliminary plans would see a fare charged for rides on the trolleys. Participating merchants would be supplied with tokens which they could pass on to customers. The merchants association is negotiating with a number of U.S. firms to purchase two trolleys, possibly used. “*Antique-look”’ trolleys mounted on a modern chassis will likely cost be- tween $50,000-$90,000 U.S. each, depending on size and condition, according to Bill Sorenson, of the North Shore Community Credit Union, who is another prin- cipal in the scheme. Sorenson said a supplier had projected operating costs for a 26-passenger trolley — excluding the cost of adminstration and drivers — at 71 cents z mile. He theorized the trolleys could make two trips an hour at 60 per cent capacity. “*It would appear to have the potential to be a good money maker,” he said. Fight gears up over P&T future _UP FOR SALE by Scheniey, Park and Tilford Gardens and Distilleries have become a source of interest and controversy to developers and council. By BARRE HER Residents have expressed interest in having the gardens restored and main- tained, before they deteriorate beyond repair. Developer Wayne Knowles of Daon Development Corp. would fike to have the in- dustrial land rezoned to build a shopping centre, with ».Brodel Developments Ltd. “Cultivating and enhancing the gardens for public use. And some North Van- couver City council members want to maintain the in- dustrial zoning, as it is one of the last pieces of in- dustrial land in the City. The Daon/Brodel $36 mil- lion proposal --~ $28 million for the shopping centre complex and $8 million for the gardens and rental areas — will be brought before ‘council Monday night (June 17). Daon and Brodel would be working together, Kno- local residents, wles said, to provide a retail village with the gardens ac- ting as the festive attraction. Said Knowles: ‘‘Coopera- tion of both developers is necessary to generate the operating costs of the gardens. It takes upwards of $500,000 to maintain gardens with about six gardeners, and the retail is necessary to support that.”” The gardens, which would be expanded by about 30 per cent, would act as the major componant in drawing cus- tomers, said John Kinney of Hyland Turnkey, the com- pany now. managing the Park and Tilferd site. “The gardens draw up- wards of 300,000 people now as they are,"’ Kinney said. The proposed complex would include a junior department store of about 66,000 square feet and 55 to 60 smaller shops and bouti- ques totalling about 100,000 square feet, Knowles said. A 60,000 square foot super- market and a multi-screen theatre would be the other anchors to the village. Small shops, food outlets, restaurants and stalls would be for rent in another 60,000 square foot area near the gardens. An amphitheatre would host special events and promotional activities. Restaurant space would be available for lease in the garden area and an on site chapel and hall would be available for weddings and receptions. Kinney said a market study showed that the shop- ping centre would not have a negative impact on other shopping areas, but rather would increase local tourism by attracting shopping dollars from other areas, which could in turn be spent at other North Shore shopp- ing centres. Knowles said the shopping centre would be very ac- cessibie from the Upper Levels highway, avoiding Marine Drive congestion. Parking requirements for the total area of 330.000 square feet would be 1,656 spots, and the development would offer 1700 spots, See P&T — Page 10