Sunday, February 24, 1991 - North Shore News - 9 The bigger they are the harder they deflect ONE OF the questions most frequently put to any veteran journalist is, ‘“Who was your most interesting interview?’’ It should be a tough question to answer. I have likely done over 25,000 interviews. The list includes six prime ministers of Canada, several foreign heads of state, as many as two dozen different premiers and hundreds of cabinet ministers. There have bcen murderers, rapists, hostage incidents and one head of the IRA Provos. Muhammed Ali, Bob Hope, Nana Mouskouri, Victor Borge, Henry Mancini, Moishe Dayan and Norman Vincent Peale have been among muy guests. So who was the most interest- ing? His name has been running through my mind frequently as I have watched our American friends engage in their peculiar approach to military conflict: war as a sporting event. My most impressive guest was William Colby, a friend and one- time associate of George Bush. For a substantial period of his life, Colby was the number one “spook”’ in the world. He was “DCI” in Washington, letters that are whispered with a sense of awe. He was Director of the Central Intelligence Agency. On the first visit, Colby was with me for three hours on air. We attempted to dissect every arena of international activity. It was such a fascinating new depar- ture for radio, I was able to lure him back a few years later for another three-hour session. We’ve maintained an irregular contact since. With Colby as a reference, a subsequent CIA Director Admiral Stansfield Turner became my guest at Expo 86, and we also were able to do a radio show on global affairs. Turner, a military man, was much different from Colby; more predictable in response than the man whose entire life was devoted to spycraft and analysis. Bill Colby was a genuine hero during the Second World War participating in the Jedburgh Mis- sions behind enemy lines. He was decorated by several governments. After the war, he studied labor law, before joining his wartime colleague Wild Bill Donovan in the formation of the CIA. “*We were all liberals,’’ he told me. ‘‘We believed the military approach was usually thoughtless, dangerous and wrong.”’ He and his associates pounded a theme in Washington: ‘‘The business of intelligence is the word intelligence.’? They set out to learn about the dangerous ele- ments in the world. Research and analysis became the cornerstone of it all. Some- times clandestine means were re- quired, not necessarily to hurt the other side, but to assist in the formulation of informed, sound government policy. Freelancers and martinets occa- sionally went wild under the guise of representing ‘‘The Company.’’ It was Colby who revealed these excesses to Congress during the early 1970s. He called the stories, **The Family Jewels.’’ He did so proudly. In 25 years Gary Bannerman OPEN LINES of history, they were able only to identify a dozen of these misadventures out of tens of thousands of initiatives. His face ianded on the cover of Time. The most agonizing memory he has of Vietnam is a program he founded: Operation Phoenix. His plan was to win the hearts and souls of the villages. He argued that the military was mak- ing thousands of enemies every day with napalm and indiscrimi- nate bombing. Phoenix started to succeed, despite the bombs. Villagers began to side more with South Vietnar: than with the north. But military impatience won the day. After Colby was promoted to Washington, Phoenix was turned over to the generals. The military approach was gunpoint negotiation: cooperate or be destroyed. Thousands were tor- tured or killed. This perversity of Phoenix is now immortalized by movies. ees Iraq, alone against the world, does not have a chance to duplicate the North Vietnamese story of survival and triumph. But the Vietnamese style is be- ing duplicated. The Americans are dangerous allies and foolish gladi- ators. They are politically afraid of war. Pathologically afraid of blood. They seem to think that war is a nifty business of expen- sive machines and warm beds at night. They just about missed the First World War. Only when attacked in 1941 did they join the second. The United States refused Douglas MacArthur’s advice to wield the final blow in Korea. It could be argued that this failure doomed Indo-China to decades of war. Middle East scholars point out that well-motivated, but ill-timed, U.S. peace initiatives during the four Arab-Israeli wars have en- couraged perpetual hostility. Every war stopped one punch short of the knock-out blow. The British had their Vietnam in Malaysia and they fought it to the finish. They fought in the bush, not from the skies. There is one enemy in Iraq. One man. Unlike Southeast Asia, there is no ideology at stake and no U.S.S.R., China or Pan-Arabic encouragement. The enemy is PUT ALL VALUABLES IN THE TRUNK HELP STOP THEFY FROM AUTOS. PROTECT YOURSELF. DKCBC AND YOUR LOCAL POLICE. Saddam UWussein and his megalomania. The merciless bombing of Iraq and its troops — along with any- one else who is in the wrong place at the wrong time — is not an act of war by the Americans: It is the Avoidance of War. No matter how much it costs and who has to suffer, Americans can go back to the PX for a hot meal, a warm bed and perhaps even a top notch show by a Hollywood cast. Will history judge this devasta- tion kindly? Will anyone really care about a deluded dictator in Baghdad? Or is it possible that learned people will look at the modern carnage along the Tigres and Euphrates — the Rivers of Babylon — and fail to applaud American achievements in killing technology? 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