cal education issues raised NV-Seymour social Credit candidate Gor- don Frampton. candidates look at logging, health care, environment ...B.C. Liberal Party candidate Danial Jarvis. IN THIS fourth and final instalment of its series on major local issues for the upcoming provincial election, the North Shore News today looks at North Vancouver-Seymour and asks the riding’s candidates about education services in the rapidly cxpanding North Vancouver District area. The candidates were also asked about the issues that have been taised on North Van- couver-Seymour doorsteps during their door-to-door campaigns. The North Shore News will feature the candidates from all four -North Shore provincial tidings in a special two-page pre- election spread in its Sunday, Oct. 13 issue. @ Social Credit candidate Gordon Frampton: Doorstep issues: ‘‘You get ques- tions about logging and that type of thing. It seems to be more the whole provincial scene on the log- ging issue. I think that what they want to do is be more careful .about how we’re doing it. They want us to go directly to selective logging. “I agree that moving in that di- rection js the right way to go, but it’s going to take a number of . years because we just can’t unilaterally change the rules and ‘expect the workforce to be J Lynn Canyon task force tackles safety problem By Michael Becker News Reporter employed, because it just won't be competitive."* Education: ‘‘The main issue that seems to be coming up is educa- tion. They’re concerned about how many dollars are being spent in the field and the quality of the education, the relationship be- tween the government and the teachers. “Essentially my position is that the relationship between the gov- ernment and the teachers has to improve, and J think that the proposal that’s now under study of a new /argaining situation with the teacher. would help that.’’ @ 8.C. Liberal Party candidate Daniel Jarvis: Deorstep issues: “You talk to some people and they say there’s no shortage Of nurses and yet you talk to the nurses — they’ve got a freeze on the hiring of nurses and -Doorstep issues: ..Green Pa of British Col- usmbia candidste Donaid Ren- nie. they’re closing down beds because they don’t have enough nurses. At the same time, because of the pay scale of the nurses, there’s no one going into nursing. It’s bloady awful when you think of it.’’ Education: ‘‘tt’s the education system in Seymour, the over- crowding in the heart of the Seymour area. It’s going to manifest itself in the secondary system. “They really are worried about the Year 2000 (program). As far as I'm concerned it appears that we have been making the change for the sake of change. “The other thing about educa- ion is little things like the drug (counsellors at secondary schools) program was stopped. That is a cvacern and I just can’t believe they would do something like that.... ‘My gut feeling is that we have to start with dumping Bill 82 — it’s a Sroken contract. We've got to give them (teachers) an en- vironment they can work under so that they’re not going to be in such conitict with the government all of the time.”’ @ Green l’arty of British Colum- bia candidste Donald Rennie: “Environmental- Ideas include consulting psychologists, erecting crosses -THE LYNN Canyon safety task force has come up with -_, Suggestions ranging from consulting psychologists to plac- ing two-foot-high white crosses at Lynn Canyon sites « where people have died cliff diving as possible solutions to Q Teducing the annual canyon carnage. -- “Keep in mind the park is a - wilderness park and putting more markers will in fact cause the park to look like a graveyard and the community would not put up with -that,’’ said Lynn Valley resident Dwight Rouse. Rouse was one of 20 people at-. tending the task force's public meeting Saturday at the Lynn Canyon Ecology Centre. The idea of placing white wooden. crosses at fatal jump points and accident sites quickly fell out of favor with audience members, who said the signs would attract vandalism, suicides and entice some risk-takers, North Vancouver District Ald. Jim Cuthbert, the task farce chairman, agreed; he said signs could be put up depicting the steep canyon walls with explana- tions as to why it was dangerous to dive from cliff faces in certain areas. But former aldermanic cas- didate Bruce Edwards disagreed By Anna Marie D’Argelo Contributing Writer with billboard signs. “Billboard warning signs would say (to dare devils) ‘please jump here,’ ’’ said Edwards, who noted that one of tke park’s charac- teristics was that it was dangerous. To avoid enticing risk-takers with warning signs, the task force asked if it was worthwhile paying two psychologists to create a motivational profile of a cliff divers so that information could be used in making effective warn- ing signs. The nine-rsember task force, made up or three district aldermen, a district staff member as well as parks, police, fire and rescue officials, was set up in September to look into ways of minimizing accidents in Lynn Canyon. The task force agreed with sev- eral audience members who said nothing could stop determined risk-takers from jumping into dangerous park waters. “IT agree it would be naive for us to think signage would serve 27 our visitors,’’ said North Shore Emergency Program coordinator Ross Peterson. “We know from downhill ski- ing that some skiers look at warn- ing signs as a target. We know this because they’ve told us that when we rescued them.”’ The task force was established shortly after the latest Lynn Can- yon deaths of two Lower Mainland young people in August. - Since 1985, there have been eight deaths and 31 injuries in Lynn Canyon. The North Van- couver District Fire Department has attended 64 canyon rescue calis since 1985. RCMP Insp. Peter Wlodarczak said two police officers routinely patrol an area that includes the park. “The fact of life is that we have the basic minimum of resources in North Vancouver. Since 1973 there has been no appreciable growth in (the number of) North Vancouver police,’’ said Wlodarc- vak. -..New Demeccrat candidate Dominique Roelants. ly, I know there is a chemical company on the shores of Dollar- ton that’s invelved in warehousing salt. The salt is an environmental hazard — whenever it rains it is washed into the inlet. I think that might be an issue.” Education: ‘‘The Green Party ap- proach to education is a decen- tralist approach. It may seem a bit dangerous to allow the taxpayers of the area to control their funding, but that would be the approach we'd probably take. Hopefully the people of the area would see the need for a_ better system of schools and would sacrifice their dollars to see more schools built and such, so they would vote for higher taxes for schools.”" o New Democrat candidate Dominique Roelants: Doorstep issues: It’s the issue of getting rid of the government. I've had lots of people who are former Socreds actually working on my campaign. On the doorstep I've had people come flat out and say they’ve always been Socreds, but they can’t do it this time.” Education: ‘‘There are a lot of people who are really choked up that their kids are in portables at a school that has only been open‘ Quick facts: Fire department statistics show: ethe majority of deaths and in- juries at Lynn Canyon occur- red to people swimming or div-: ing (75%) or to people beyond protective fences (25%); emore than half (35) of the rescues were for non-North Shore residents living in the Lower Mainland (11 were North Vancouver residents and 18 addresses unknown); Wlodarczak said the West Van- couver Police practice at Cypress Bowl Park of turning back cars that contain closed bottles of alcoho! would be ruled illegal if challenged in the courts. Although placing areas off- limits and increasing fencing were discussed, no task force member calied for an outright cliff-diving ban. **People coming to the canyon and jumping is not a problem. What we want to stop are the people coming to the canyon, drinking and jumping,’’ said District Fire Chief Rick Grant. Grant said the district fire ...British Columbia Libertarian Party candidate Bill Tomiinson. for a year (Dorathy Lynas School has five portable classrooms). “In North Van-Seymour it seems a lot of people have con- cerns about education — at Cap College there have been cutbacks. They’ve cut course offerings, stu- dents are being turned away. Education is not a social service, it’s an investment in our future. If we want a strong economy we have to have a well-educated pop- ulation. The Socreds just don’t believe that.” @ British Columbia Libertarian Party candidate Bill Totnlinson: : Education: ‘Nobody seems to be very happy about education. Frankly the only answer that I see to it is to try and put more power into the hands of the parents. The only way I can see to do this is by a voucher system. : “Parents of students would get vouchers equivalent in value ap- proximately to the cost of a year in schooling. They would then take that voucher to a school of their choice, which could be a private school or a government school. “You could use it in effect to purchase a year’s education.”’ | *the majority of people rescued were males aged 16 to 25; . «alcohol was not a significant factor in most of the recent’ deaths; *alcohol was a significant fac- tor in 90% of rescues that didn’t involve death; 50 of 64 rescues occurred in June, July or August; *the most likely time for a rescue request was between noon and 6 p.m.; ethe majority of rescues occur between First Falls and Third Falls pool below the suspension bridge or 90-foot pool. department spends a lot of time practising canyon rescues because “we are going to be called to do it.’” When questioned about having rescued people pay their rescue costs, Peterson said it was dif- ficult to assign the cost. “And if payment is supposed to create a deterrent, I can say that we seldom get repeat customers in search and rescue,’’ said Peterson. The task force will submit rec- ommendations for new Lynn Canyon safety measures to council sometime before the end of December.