“No gang Forum tackles Lynn Valley teen troubles THE NORTH Shore does not have a gang problem, North Vancouver RCMP Insp. Dave Roseberry told more than 300 people Wednesday night at a forum on youth violence at Lynn Valley’s Argyle Secondary School. By Bob Mackin Jr. Contributing Writer But he said a group of less than 30 individuals is wreaking havoc in once serene neighborhoods like Lynn Valley. The forum resulted, in part, from a recent series of North Shore News articles chronicling drug and gang-related activities on the North Shore. “We on the North Shore,” Roseberry said, ‘‘do not have, in our view, a gang problem. We have a youth problem, a prob- lem in the way youth is acting and reacting on disputes.”’ Four or five years ago, he said, disagreements between youths over girlfriends, money or sporting events were often dealt with on a ‘‘one-on-one sit- uation’”’ behind their school. But now, he said, disputes over similar matters involve more people and often danger- ous weapons, such as baseball bats, steel bars and chains, and firearms. Roseberry stressed that there is a hardcore group of ‘‘20 to 27 youths, some who attend school, some who have dropped out, who are the problem. These people have been charged with assault, extortion, weapons of- fences, breach of probation and Friday. October 19. 1990 - North Snore News - 3 NEWS photo Stuart Davis MCDONDALD'S DISTRICT supervisor Darrell Horst addresses concerned Lynn Valley residents at Wednesday night's forum on youth violence in the community. muggings.’’ Roseberry said members of the hardcore group can sometimes attract ‘‘up to 150 looky-loos and wannabes’? who form a loosely-knit group that commits smaller crimes and _ frequents local businesses like 7-Eleven and McDonald's, often alienating regular clientele. Roseberry added that there is a pattern of citizens’ complaints against unruly youth. He said activities seem to slow down during summer holidays and when the weather is general- ly good. But once school starts, problems such as those that have plagued Lynn Valley over the past two months increase dramatically. McDonald's district supervisor Darrell Horst agreed. “During summer and_ nicer weather, I don’t know where they are,’’ Horst said. ‘‘But I know where they are not! ‘‘When it gets cold and rainy, for whatever reason, we will often get a whole group of youths.”’ ‘Sometimes we put on an ex- tra manager to keep people mov- ing (through the restaurant) so they can have a bite to eat for a reasonable amount of time and they can move on,”’ Horst sail. “The problems happen with larger groups when alcohol is involved — which is not un- common — and people get braver in groups and fights hap- pen. That's when we call the police for help.” Len McGeouch, Loss Preven- tion and Public Relations man- ager for 7-Eleven stores, said vi- olence among youth is not new. ‘*As we (the baby boomers) all grew up, there was always that group in society that wanted to perform for the other people. These things are cyclical, and now we're finding these things recurring. “Our challenge is to convince them as passively and peacefully as possible that this is not the place to hang out.”" Among 7-Eleven’s tactics are the playing of muzak over public address systems at store outlets, which has discouraged loiterers in Victoria and Edmonton, and participating in community events. Lynn Valley Youth Worker Helen Swanston said violence is the symptom and not the prob- lem. “By punishing violence and not doing anything to help the teens is not a solution to the See Business page S Teens fear drop-in centre shutdown TEENS ATTENDING a drop-in centre located at William Griffin Community Centre say North Van- couver needs more of the neighborhood centres. Said 14-year-old Handsworth student Dom Hons, ‘‘More peo- ple would be staying in their own areas with their own friends.”’ Hons and his friend J.P. Valdes, 15, regularly attend the Griffin Teen Centre. But they say that other teens attracted to the community centre have threatened its continued ex- istence. Said Valdes, ‘‘It used to be, Trevor Lautens to run weekly in the News OUR GARDEN OF Biases is growing. By Michael! Becker News Reporter like, 23 people going there. But now on Fridays there are, like, 200 people down there. I think they’re looking for parties and it’s a totally different crowd.”’ And according to Hons, some parents are not allowing their children to attend the communi- ty centre. Said Hons, ‘Behind the scenes the parents are really worried and they’re scared, and some parents deal with their kids by using fear tactics. But all that does is it makes us more mad and we go out and do whatever. Some people are doing things they wouldn’t do normally. They do it because they think, ‘If they see me, (other kids) I'm cool.’ But Terry (youth worker Terry Bulych) really cracked down on that — drugs, alcohol.’’ Hons said teens attending the drop-in still have some time ‘'to straighten things out.” “Some people come down and want to sell dope and to those people we said, ‘Look, get out of here. We don’t need you.’ Those guys are a joke,’’ he said. The drop-in centre was estab- lished as part of the Capilano Youth Project about four years ago to offer teens a supportive alternative to hanging out in the street. Added Valdes, *‘People come down there on drugs and we say, ‘Why don’t you take it some- where else — you're just getting us in trouble, and the GT might be closed. It was very close to being closed.’’ Chambers granted appeal in coke conspiracy conviction VANCOUVER LAWYER Martin lowing an authorities. investigation by Canadian clean up problem areas and U.S. fears for son’s life THE MOTHER of an Argyle Secondary School student who was attacked by an angry mob of about 30 youths just hours be- fore Wednesday night’s forum on youth violence in Lynn Valley told the crowd ihat she does not know what to do and said the police are equally helpiess in such situations. By Bob Mackin Jr. Contributing Writer The woman, who did not want to be identified for fear of violent reprisal, said during a question period that her son had been assaulted and held at knife point several times during the last couple of months. The situation eventually blew up and the woman’s son was followed home by a group of **28 to 40°’ youths who then beat him up. The boy suffered a oroken nose and is now fearing for his life, should he venture away from home. When the police arrived, the mother said the youths did not leave. “They know the police are powerless,’’ she said of the youths, many of whom remained on the scene. Although she knows the iden- tity of many of those who at- tacked her son, the distraught mother is reluctant to press charges out of fear of another gang attack. But North Vancouver RCMP Insp. Dave Roseberry said he is concerned with the attitude of many victims of crime, who will not give a statement to police or press charges because they are disillusioned with the legal system. The attitude, he said, frustrates the efforts of police to like Lynn Valley. Roseberry conceded that the penalties fer young offenders are limited. “People are afraid to go the route to get them charged, even though the penalties are not great,’ he said. ‘But identifica- tion is the first step. People must and the proceed support system.”’ el index @ Automotives @ Classified Ads § Ecolnfo WM Editorial Page @ Home & Garden Chambers has been granted an appeal for his 1987 conviction for conspiracy to im- port cocaine. On Thursday, the Supreme Court of Canada ordered a new trial for the Deep Cove resident. Six justices upheld the appeal with Madame Justice C. L’Heureux-Dube dissenting. Chambers’ lawyer in the Supreme Court case Thomas Berger said it is now up to the crown to decide whether to proceed with the trial. ‘After al! he’s already been through two trials,’’ said Berger. ‘‘It's been before the courts for almost a decade.”’ In 1987, a jury found Chambers guilty of conspir- ing to import cocaine after hearing 53 days of evi- dence. He was originally arrested in 1981 with 10 other individuals and charged with drug offences fol- A long legal battle ensued.ending in the 1987 trial at which it was alleged that Chambers and several other co-accused were involved in a conspiracy to import a kilogram of cocaine into Canada from Miami. Two co-accused accepted # plea bargain, pleading guilty to the lesser charge of conspiring to traffic in cocaine, while the Crown stayed charges against other co-accused. Meanwhile, Chambers was sentenced in May 1987 to nine years in prison by B.C. Supreme Court Justice William Trainor. Starting today (see page 12), provocative column by Trevor Lautens will appear every Friday in the North Shore News. Garden of Biases, which is exclusive to the News, was first published in Sune and has been appearing in the newspaper on the second Friday in cach month. Lautens, a columnist’ with the Vancouver Sun, first began writing for daily newspapers in the mid-1940s at the tender age of 1h. the 7 @ Paul St. Pierre @ What's Going On... .25 Weather Friday, cloudy with sunny periods and a chance of showers. Saturday. periods of rain. Highs near 12°C. In June, 1987, Chambers filed an appeal with the B.C. Appeal Court which upheld the conviction. If the case goes to trial, it will be heard in the assizes court. Second Class Registration Number 3885