Socreds, NDP in the hot seat Give us the figures, audience members demand 44 I can tell you that I spent six months trying to get the government ta cut up the (Expo) land and sell it in small chunks. 99 - North Vancouver-Seymour Sccial Credit candidate Gordon Frampton NORTH VANCOUVER- Lonsdale and North Van- couver-Seymour candidates answered questions Wed- nesday in a lively meeting that often put either Social Credit or NDP candidates on the spot. By Anna Marie D’ Angelo Contributing Writer “I applaud your position . against Bill 82 Mrs. (Marilyn) ... Baker, but in fact it is contrary to ' Mrs. Jobnston’s view,’’ said North Vancouver resident Jeff Lawson. Baker, who is the Social Credit candidate in North Vancouvez- Lonsdale, stuck by her position that she did not agree with the re- - troactive labor legislation. “The government is the people _you elect. And there is nobody here (on both panels), sadly, that is in the present government. { will endeavor to convince my caucus colleagues (to change Bill 82),”” said Baker. David Schreck, NDP candidate for Norzth Vancouver-Lonsdale, said if elected an NDP govern- ment would get rid of Bill 82 not just because it was a retroactive act, but because it also instilled breach of contract. “Bill 82 represents (Social Cred- it) government incompetence,”’ said Schreck. Support rises for Liberals NORTH Shore News poll results _show the B.C. Liberal party pick- ing up support on the North Shore. . A News poll conducted Sept. 22 ~ showed that of the more than :90% who intend to cast ballots, decided voters who agreed to mame a party preference revealed that 143.6% supported Social Credit, 9.6% backed the New Democrats, 1.9% said they would vote Liberal and 0.3% said they supported the Green Party of British Columbia. But the poll also showed that at least 40% of North Shore residents who intend to vote in the Oct. 17 provincial election re- mained undecided. An Oct. 6 News poll showed that of the decided voters who agreed to reveal a party prefer- ence, 9% supported the Liberals, .9% supported the New “ Democrats, i2.7% supported the Socreds and 0.3% voiced support for the Green Party of British Columbia. The Oct. 6 survey also showed a large group of undecided voters: 35% For both polls, close to 500 North Shore residents were ran- domly surveyed from Deep Cove to Horseshoe Ray. The poll does not reflect voter preference in specific ridings. NEWS photo Terry Peters DEPUTY LIBERAL leader Shella Copps pald a visit to the West Vancouver-Garibaild! constituency recently to lend a helping hand to the campaign of Liberal candidate David Mitchell. Copps crit- teized the provincial and federal governments over what she said was the lack of affordable housing and extended-care facilities for sen‘ors. Baker and Schreck were part of a 10-candidate panel that also in- cluded Liberal, Green and Liber- tarian candidates. More than 300 people attended the all-candidates forum spon- sored by the North Vanco:iver Chamber of Commerce and held at Centennial Theatre. Schreck and his colleague Dominique Roelants, NDP can- didate for North Vancouver- Seymour, were asked to answer an “‘unanswered’’ question put to NDP leader Mike Harcourt during Tuesday n‘ghit’s televised debate on CBC. “I'd like to know what figures the NDP puts on their: platform for the next five years and where they are going to get the money for it?” said an audience member. When Roelants repeated the NDP platform without the figures, some audience members heckled ‘answer the questions’’ several times over. An agitated Schreck then cut in and said the NDP was going to spend 1.5% less then the Social om Credit. . “We are going to balance the budget,” said Schreck while some audience members began to chant, “How much? How much?”’ North Vancouver-Seymour Lib- eral candidate Daniel Jarvis said his party was prepared to make a balanced provincial budget law in five years. Schreck pointed out that the Social Credit government has done that already. “It was the law. Then the Social Credit broke the Jaw by br- Sign wars waged N. Shore election signs burned, vandalized SIGN WARS have broken out in the North Shore . provincial election campaign. West Vancouver-Capilano Social Credit candidate John - Reynolds said some of his signs have been torched; a spokesman for ‘North Van- couver-Seymour New Demo- cratic Party candidate Domini- que Roelants said NDP signs have been torn down. Neither the Reynolds team nor the Roelants camp have reported the incidents to the police. Reynolds said he has lost about $2,000 worth of cam- paign signs. “Two of them were torched the other day. One of them was in front of Jim Pattison’s house,’’ said Reynolds. ‘‘These are big, expensive signs. This is acriminal offence.”’ Reynolds said he does not know who is behind the inci- dents, but he called it ‘‘an or- ganized effort.”’ Eric Ustad, Reynolds’ cam- paign manager, said one sign was torched at Taylor Way and Southborough Drive; a second one was burned down in the By Surj Rattan News Reporter Queens and Stevens D-ive area. **We just finished replacing those signs that were burned. Who knows who is doing it. I’m not seeing anyone else’s signs being damaged,’ said Ustad. ‘‘it is a criminal activity and we will prosecute.” Doug Ottenbreit, campaign manager for Roelants, said a number of NDP signs have also been vandalized. “Ie started slowly, but it’s en increasing,’ said Otten- breit. ‘‘In certain cases they have been totally shredded.”’ He added that he does not know who is responsible for the damage to the NDP signs, but he said that in some cases, where a Roelants’ sign has been taken down, a sign belonging to the camp of North Vancouver-Seymour Socred candidate Gordon Frampton has appeared. “‘T haven’t got any direct ev- idence, but it makes me wonder when one of our signs goes down and one of Mr. Frampton’s signs is put in its place,’’ said Ottenbreit. But Maviz Duro, Frampton’s campaign ‘manager, denied Frampton’s. team has deen damaging any election signs. She added that they have also had damage done to some of their signs, but that they have not reported the incidents to the media. “‘They (Roelants’ camp) blame us for everything that goes on. One week into the campaign, they phoned us and said we were stealing (North Vancouver-Lonsdale NDP candidate) David Schreck signs. Why would we want to steal David Schreck signs?'’ said Duro. “We have not been doing this. Our signs have been trashed, but we’ve never com- plained. That’s the only way they can criticize us.” Both the Reynolds team and the Roelants camp said anyone who witnesses damage being done to election signs should contact the police. 44 1'm not here to defend Vander Zalm's record. Even Socreds won't do that. $9 — North Vancouver-Lonsdale Liberal candidate Floyd Sulty inging in an unbalanced budget so they changed the law. That’s the Social Credit way,’’ said Schreck. Another audience member also referred to the televised debate. “Rita Johnston gave us a lesson last night in economics. She said the province bought the Expo land for $4 a foot and sold it for more than $100. But she didn’t include the cost of clean-up. How much is it going to cost us to clean up the Expo site?”’ North Vancouver-Seymour Social Credit candidate Gordon Frampton, a property assessor, said he didn’t know the cost of Expo land clean-up. “Give us a number. Give us a number,”’ heckled some audience members in a tone reminiscent of Premier Rita Johnston’s voice during the televised debate. “I can tell you that I spent six months trying.to get the govern- ment to cut up the (Expo) land and sell it in small chunks,”’ said Frampton. “That is one of the reasons why, I am running. To give my exper- tise to the government,’’ said Frampton. . After North Van- couver-Lonsdale Liberal candidate Floyd Sully criticized Harcourt and the NDP opposition for sup- porting the Meech Lake Accord, Schreck noted that Vander Zalm also supported Meech. “I'm not here to defend Vander Zalm’s record. Even Socreds won't do that,”’ said Sully. a CS Index @ Automotives &@ Classified Ads @ Crime Alert @ Editorial Page Home & Garden Kids’ Stuff Trevor Lautens Mailbox $8 Paul St. Pierre ® What's Going On ....24 Weather Friday, sunny with cloudy periods. High 18°C. Saturday, sunny with cloudy periods. Chance of rain. Highs 15°C. Second Class Registration Number 3885.