43 - Wednesday, No need to make Art program set up for special March 31, 1993 ~ North Shore News LIFESTYLES pleasantries with a recorded voice DEAR MISS MANNERS — If I cali a friend and get the answering machine, and the recording lists more than one person 1 know, do I-just Jeave a message for the person I'm calling and ignore the partner or roommate? Do Tsay “Hi, Tom, I'm calling for Karen?”* If they are both people f regu- larly see in person, 1 greet them both before starting my individual conversation, but it seems odd to do that to the machine. Does the rudeness of not greet- ing someene in person carry over? GENTLE READER Machines are not people. There's a big difference between cursing a coffee machine and cursing a waiter; and between kicking automobile tires and kicking automobile mechanics. But when Miss Manners tries to get this point across, she cn- counters resistance from pecple who declare, for example, ‘‘Hang- ing up on my answering machine is ike hanging up on me.”’ No, it’s not. You have to make that vital distinction between leav- ing polite messages, because they are directed at the person who collects the. messages, and trying “to exchange pleasantries with a recorded voice. “. In person, you should not ever attempt having a private conversa- tion with one person. while another is standing by, no matter how pleasantly you greeted the ex- tra person first. But when calling, you . need merely identify the person whom you are calling and begin your “message. DEAR MISS MANNERS — At a lunch with my fiancee, her parenis, and a close friend, the menu was Italian, *whick { don’t speak, but they all do. As you may imagine, I had trouble ordering. I managed the main course, but then I was ex- pected to order x salad. Unable io read the menu, I said I would share my fiancee’s saiad. Fortunately, the waiter sensed my discomfort and took it upon himself te bring me a simple - salad,’ rather than embarrassing me any further by forcing me to share with my fiancee. How ‘can ‘such a situation be avoided in the future? GENTLE: READER Well, you could try talking them all into Chinese food next time. But surely they are as likely as Miss Manners to wonder, why, if you are marrying inio an Italian- speaking. ‘ Italian-eating family, you are not attempting to learn at least restaurant Italian. In the meantime, it seems to Miss Manners that you have at least two people present who would be happy to assist you — the waiter, whose business it is to help people get food that they will enjoy, and your very own fiancee, whose. business it has now become to help you enjoy life even more, as you should be doing for her. Judith MISS MANNERS The only etiquette problem Miss Manners can imagine here is caus- ed by your erroneous belief that it is wrong to ask for such instruc- tion. On the contrary, it is clarm- ing. Unless you have passed yourself off as what we used to call a Count from Torcello (there are no counts on the Venetian island of Tercello), your interest will more than make up for your ignorance. DEAR MISS MANNERS My baby’s first birthday is ap- proaching, and 1 really do not wish her #9 be loaded down with a bunch of plastic toys that require batteries, or clothing that we do not need just now. Would it be inappropriate to make a notation on the invitations such as “‘At your discretion, a contribution may be made to Theress’s scholastic fund at the U.S. Postal Service Credit UWnion,’’ with her account number? GENTLE READER — A one-year-old is fortunately too young to be humiliated by paren- tal attempts to control what her other relatives or playmates’ narents may offer her out of the kindness of their hearts, and to open a fundraising drive in her name. But Miss Manners is embarrass- ed on her behalf. Should you wish to celebrate your child’s birthday with others, it will be your job to express grat- itude to them. Afterward, some sleight of hand should enable you to give away excess toys or clothing to those who can use them. Next year, this will be harder, because you will have to deal with your daughter’s unhappiness. Miss Manners suggests you ,use the year to learn to teach her to be appreciative of the efforts of others, and to use your parental authority more judiciously. Seymour troop holds manure sale: SPRING HAS arvived and it’s time to prepare your garden for the ‘growing season. The 18th Seymour Scout Troop is holding a manure sale at Lynn Valley Shopping Centre, 1199 Lynn Valley Rd. in North Van- couver this weekend. The sale, which “juality mature manure, will run from 10 a.m. 10 5 p.m. on Satur- day, April 3 and from 11) a.m. to 4 p.m. on Sunday, April 4. te features top- ' Proceeds will help fund camp- ing trips and other outdoor activi- ties including the Canadian jam- boree this summer. Other troop activities recycling bottles and cans planting trees, The scouts meet regularly on Monday evenings at Carisbrook elementary school. include and Fer. more information, contact Kevin Kerney at 987-7553, IN RESPONSE to increasing re- quests for an arts program for teens and young adults who have special needs, the West Van- couver Reercation Centre (WYRC) is offering a new pro- gram called Arts Alive. The centre felt frustrated at not being able to provide suit- able recreational pursuits for all members of the community, say program organizers, But the Arts Alive program, which is a sampler of the music, drama and visual arts modules, shoukd fill this gap and provide Opportunities for everyone to join in, The program emphasises the fun aspects of learning the arts. It gives participants a chance to meet new people and experiment with a variety of creative arts in a friendly and supportive en- vironment, needs students Arts Alive costs $49 and runs from 7 to 9 p.m. each Thursday from April 1 to May 6. Family members or compa- nions are encouraged to join the class; however, assistance will be provided to those who require it. WYVRC is Socated at 780-22nd St. in West Vancouver and is wheelchair accessible, For more information and to pre-register, call 926-3266. ey DE AN at Bae RAR BET HLL RK fh in BE When you arrive in a new place it's nice to know God alyeady has a family waiting for you. Sometimes things are so different it's hard to feel like youreally belong. Butatchurch you do belong, because your family is part of our family -- God's family. And we're waiting to welcome you this Sunday. Show your Spirit. C The Anglican Church For information about an Anglican parish in your community, call 684-6306 or outside Vancouver 1-800-665-1105 Some back to church. HIKE EE IMF fe 9 ena» ley ia ("| Be ze le MASE ALE be seyncE A BBE EE AY MK = yh SEER Z re 4 5 A ZI EY SLs + {ih ke iit: Als : iE BE LATA YE 872-1884 + HLT “NORTH SHORE ANGLICAN CHURCHES ST. FRANCIS-IN-THE-WOOD 4773 South Piccadilly Rd. 922-3531 ST. AGNES 530 East 12th Street 987-0432 ST. CATHERINES 1058 Ridgewood Drive ST. 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