we NEWS photo ithe Wakefield THERESA Miltimore, with three-year-old daughter Frances, unloaded cans at the North Shore Bottle Depot yesterday morning. The North Van woman says the new deposit-refund program means she will now have to return items she used to put in her Blue Box. Deposit rules change New drinic container progt t province-wide today Androw McCredie Editor andrew@nsnen':.com A new drink contais:er deposit pro- gram was uncorked today in B.C. Beginning this morning, a deposit charge will be levied on almost all drink containers sold in the province. The only exceptions to the new program are milk and milk substitute containers, drinking boxes and gable-top containers. Liquor bottles (wine and spirits), juice and water containers and other ready-to-serve drinks now have a deposit fee. Likewise, all these con- tainers can now be returned to cither point of purchase or sanctioned recycling depots for a full refund. . According to a Ministry of vironment, Lands and Parks press release, the new program will result in an additional 166 million beverage containers cecycled annually, For North Shore Bottle Depot owner Mr. “Nobody figures how complicated the new program will be,” Kim said yesterday morning. “Everyone thinks it will take a month to get the system running.” Kim has owned the 38-year Lower Lonsdale institution for 10 ycars and said today’s new regulations represent the biggest change in the drink container recycling industry ever. However, he is confident his business can handle the change. “My workers are really trained, and my manager has been here eight years so I think we'll be able to manage,” Kim said, noting that liquor and winc bottles will be more labour i ve for his workers because 2 litre: 20¢ need to be sarted by size Up to and including ! le and shape. re: 10¢ He added that most of his customers have said they like the new program. “Before five years ago I just handled beer cans and beer bottles,” Kim said. Unlike point-of-purchase returns, Kim's business charges 3 small handling fee for returns. What he offers that supermarkets and tiquor stores don't is one-stop returns in that his depot Return pricing Soft-drink, juice, water containers Up to I litre: 5¢ Liquor and wine Over | litre: 20¢ changes bur not the details,” Kim said. Theresa Miltimore fell tate that category. “So basically the change is we pay for a deposit fee when we buy it, then we have to return it to get our money back; whereas before we weren’t paying but were recycling it any- way?” the North Vancouver woman asked while her three-year-old daughter Frances stacked cans in cardboard flats outside the North Shore Bottle Depot. “For me it will be more of an inconvenience because J recycled it right at my house,” she said. “Burt now I have to rake those (containers) and bring them back to get my moncy back.” She said thar for people who don’t recycle it will be a good thing, but added that she pre- ferred the old deposit program. Another change in the deposit program concerns the fee charged on soft drink containers. Two-litre con- tainers were 30¢ cach; today they are 20¢. And containers up to one litre go fram 10¢ down ta Sc. In 1970, British Columbia became the first province or state in North America to introduce Kim, the new pragram will mean more business, and some uncertainty. Woman arrested in NV stabbing A 44-year-old North Vancouver man was seriously injured on Sept. 25 after being stabbed during a domestic fight. Accordire: to the North Vancouver RCMP, the man was stabbed deeply in the back. He underwent surgery ar Lions Gate Hospital. ‘The man is expected to survive, Police said the man was stabbed around midnight in his home in the 300- block of East 3rd Street in North Vancouver. A 31-year-old woman was arrested in connection with the incident. Police say alcohol and other drugs were contributing factors in the incident. Police initially investigated the case as an attempted murder, The injured man and arrested woman have had previous dealings with police. No names were released gation continu ¢ investi- —Anna Marie D'Angelo accepts all refundable containers. “Most of my customers know about the a mandatory deposit/refund program for drink containers. Fire scorches nudist camp Robert Galster News Reporter robert@nsnews.com AN early morning blaze threatened to destroy Canada’s oldest nudist club on Tuesday. The Van ‘Tan Club was established in the wilderness north of Lynn Valley in 1939. Although it doesn’t pro- vide its members with overnight facilities, a full-time caretaker lives in a cabin on the club's site. According to North Vancouver District fire depart- ment investigator William Bicla, the female carctaker awoke at about 1] p.m. on Monday and found a stand- up wood tray adjacent to a fireplace had caught fire. She ran outside and encountered her boyfriend, who was just returning from a walk. ‘The duo pulled the smoldering wood rack out of the cabin and on to a cear- ing at the top of stairs leading to the rest of the club’s grounds, The club's facilities include a swimming pool, sauna, volleyball pitch and several small structures hous- ing a generator, water tanks and other supplies. Using buckets of water and a chemical fire extin- guisher the couple extinguished the burning embers and went to bed. Approximately four hours later, shordy after 3 a.m. on Tuesday morning, they awoke to the sight of thick smoke in the cabin. When they emerged from the building, a wall of the 900 sq. ft. (84 sq. m.) structure was already engulfed in tlames. They rushed along a service road and awoke a resident on the north end of Mountain Highway to phone the fire department. Fire crews arniving at the scene were greeted by a structure fully engulfed in fame. ‘They were hampered in their attempts to extinguish the fire by the lack ofa water source and the lack of light, which made it diffi- cult to see the area’s layout. ‘Two tire department pumper tracks holding about 600 gallons of water cach were on site and a pump was installed at the facility’s swimming, pool. “Taking into consideration the forest and how dry it is, you certainly can’t take any chances, so the fire crews will be here for the rest of the day to make surc it’s out,” said Bicla on Tuesday moming with the remains of the structure continuing to billow smoke behind him. A member of the club who arrived a few hours after the fire was put out said the fire, although regrettable, won't affect the club’s operations. Missing pieces sought From page 1 “T think the issue (regarding, the mayor) is total bafflegab,” said Durman. “The simple fact is the mayor knew the rules prior to the release (of the Cuff report). She could have told the law firm ‘I'll sign the release... and my portion of the report will be in the (public) relcase.’ There is no need to wait this 30 to 60 days and wait for the city clerk to ask her.” He said he fails to under- stand the mayor's reasoning. Durman said the matter could be solved now. “She docsn’r have to wait. Nobody has to wait,” he said. “There is a procedure that has to be fol- lowed, but anybody could step forward right this moment (and release their information). The manager could say, ‘Well, I don’t mind, Pll let my stuff in.” The mayor could have said it prior to the release.” Coun. Liz Byrd agrees with Durman. “Yes | certainly want the mayor to release her informa- tion. Council is taking it all on the neck and we're not com- plaining,” she said. “I can’t understand the mayor’s reluc- tance. She’s holding council to ransom at the moment and | don’t like it. It’s making us ail look incredibly foolish.” West Vancouver Chamber of Commerce president John Clark wants the process to go forward. To date the chamber is one of four groups or individu- als to file requests under the FOI to get the full, unedited report released. “It’s a sorry night tonight,” he said. “The people who are likely the ones named in the report (arc the ones) that are holding the entire district for ransom.” He said he docs nor blame council and thinks that there is some manipulation going on. “We almost saw a non-confi- dence vote tonight,” Clark said. “I don’ think council is hiding. I think council is intimidated. The mayor is suffocating, the entire process.” The West Van chamber, the West Vancouver Municipal Employces’ Association, the Ambleside and Dundarave Ratepayers’ Association (ADRA) and a fourth party not identified by Warwick have filed requests. ADRA is also looking for copies of all correspondence berween the mayor, council, municipal staff and George Cuff and Associates regarding the public release of the report’s material. Meanwhile, Warwick is in the process of asking, all of the individuals identified in the Cuff report, for their permis- sion to replace the edited por- tions as they pertain to cach person. Durman also urged mem- bers of the public to pursue release of the original docu- ment ander the FOL. His origi- nal motion for council to pur- sue this avenue was defeated on the basis of legal advice from municipal solicitors stating council was not allowed to do sO.